eirenical: (PoT -- Ryoma -- little things -- lelola)
[personal profile] eirenical
So... apparently there has been a bit of unYulelike behavior over on AO3. I won't expound on it here, but my reaction comment was immediate and sad and reactionary and when I was done writing it, I wanted to share it with more than just those who would read that post on the yuletide_admin comm.

So, here it is, in response to the bad feelings, I give you...

This was my very first Yuletide and [livejournal.com profile] elynross... Wow. The work you and the other mods do is incredible and I can't believe that people would take advantage of all this generosity just to abuse it.

So, I'd just like to take this opportunity as a first-time Yuletider to say a few things.

First, on fics I received: I received four incredible gift fics for Yuletide. I had made several detailed and specific requests under the express understanding that optional details are optional and I tried to make sure my author(s) knew that I knew that. I hope they did. Some authors took me up on optional details, some did not. The ones who did not may not have given me what I thought I wanted... but because they wrote what was in their hearts to write, that passion came across and they gave me stories that were better than what I thought I wanted. I am deeply in heartfelt love with each and every one of these four stories and extremely grateful for the authors who wrote them. I mentally cuddled them before going to bed that first night. Er... the stories, that is, not the authors. That would have just been weird if they're not into virtual PDAs. ^_^ (OK, I'm a cheeseball, I'll admit it.)

Second, on fics I wrote: I also wrote four fics for Yuletide, all over a thousand words -- maybe a little ambitious for a first Yuletide, but I was feeling productive and in the spirit. I haven't had a bazillion hits or comments or kudos, but they're small fandoms and I wasn't expecting that. I will say that the fanlove and gratitude I have gotten on all four of them (both from my recipients and others), and the encouragement to continue writing in those fandoms, has had me beaming away for a solid 48 hours, now.

This entire fic exchange has been the most wonderful fandom experience I have had since I was 18 and Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 fandom was all that was out there for me. Fandom has changed a lot over these last 15 years and not all for the better, I'm afraid. I've always held the Yuletide small fandom exchange up on a sort of pedestal because of the sheer quantity of quality fanfic it produces every year and the true holiday spirit it seems to do so in. It's been kind of a "last bastion of what fandom should be" for me and I'd hate to see bad feelings corrupt that.

Maybe this is naive and maybe I've said too much, but, well... there it is.

I love the mods.

I love my authors.

I love my recipients.

I love all the rest of you who wrote so many fics that I want to read that it will take me the next four months to read through them all and enjoy and give appropriate feedback.

You all rock!

Happy Yuletide. ^_^

Date: 2011-12-27 07:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-12-27 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arithanas.livejournal.com
*high five*

Date: 2011-12-27 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
^_^ Thanks!

Date: 2011-12-27 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tptigger.livejournal.com
(Here from Yuletide: ) ♥ Well put, and I'm glad you finally decided to join the fun.

Date: 2011-12-27 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'm glad I did, too. ^_^ I had a total blast writing the stories I wrote and got three more stories than I was expecting to get. It was definitely a great first year and more than enough encouragement to get me to sign up again next year. ^_^

Side funny note: One of my four stories was written for a friend and she guessed it was me. *snerts* Anonymity fail. *chuckles* At least she liked the story. ;)

Date: 2012-01-01 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tptigger.livejournal.com
You know, I wa wondering if the Solarbabies story was yours after I saw this post. So I'm now 3x as glad you decided to join in the fun. (Off to check out your Dino Thunder fic. :)

Date: 2012-01-01 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
*laughs* Yeah... I seem to give myself away in Author's Notes. *sheepish grin* That's how my friend caught me. ;) Thanks, though!

Ooo... yeah. The DT fic... eh-heh. Totally opposite side of the spectrum from the Solarbabies fic. Hope I didn't freak you out on that one. -.-;;;

Date: 2012-01-02 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tptigger.livejournal.com
I took a look at the summary & decided to change my mind. :).

Date: 2012-01-02 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
-.-;;; Yeah... like I said. Polar opposite. My fics tend to run the full gamut of randomness these days. Some are safer than others. -.-;;; And, I'm totally not offended. ^_^ I'm well aware that's not everyone's cup of tea. ^_^ At least I write clear warnings. ^_~

If you're looking for a "safe" PR fic... probably the safest one I've written is "Taking Root" -- you can find it on my actual webpage, chibis.net (http://www.chibis.net/) -- but it's a PR Zeo story... and kind of long. And older. O_o;;; Like... 12 years older. My writing has matured some since then. Still. ^_^

I really need to quit babbling at you. Really. -.-;;;

Date: 2011-12-27 08:12 pm (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Tumnus)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Well said. This is my third Yuletide and I'm always amazed at the kindness and thoughtfulness of everyone involved. Thank you.

Date: 2011-12-27 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
Thank you! I have been, too. It's like a double gift. ^_^ I'm glad that after five years I finally revved up enough to join in.

Date: 2011-12-27 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rani23.livejournal.com
I am not an author nor a recipient -- but -- I love Yuletide.

I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When my family is driving me nuts, or the holidays are too much, there's this amazing, amazing thing happening that always makes me smile. I love all the new fic and the creativity and I just love you all.

From all us Yuletide Lurkers out there - THANK YOU SO MUCH.

You make my holiday season amazing. :)

Date: 2011-12-27 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
^_^ For my own part, thank you. I was a Yuletide lurker for years, myself, so I know exactly what you're talking about. ^_^ Yuletide makes my holidays -- and the whole rest of my year! -- bright. ^_^

Date: 2011-12-27 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clayray3290.livejournal.com
This was my first Yuletide, too, and although I wish I had been more active in the community and been involved in chat and whatnot, I just want to echo the same thoughts and say that I totally agree that this Yuletide community is absolutely wonderful and I love all of you!

Date: 2012-01-04 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
*nodnod* Absolutely agreed. ^_^ I got on the chat room once at the very end and was immediately sorry I hadn't done so sooner. Then again... you live, you learn, you do better next year, right? ;)

Date: 2011-12-27 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devilc.livejournal.com
As a multi-year participant, I am so happy to hear that you had such a wonderful experience and that you get it.

Date: 2011-12-28 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
Thank you! I really tried to approach this with the spirit I felt was intended. And I've been trying this little thing where I don't pre-judge.

(Secondarily... this trying before judging works on clothing shopping, too. ^_~)

Date: 2011-12-27 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pie-is-good.livejournal.com
Here from yuletide...it's such a great exchange. I got 2 amazing fics this year, and I've never been disappointed. I'm wondering what happened :(

Date: 2012-01-04 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
*sigh* Apparently there was some inappropriate activity in comments on a few fics and some abuse of recipients. I don't really know all the details, but here is the original post:

http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/132372.html (http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/132372.html)

I suppose that in a fic exchange this huge, there are bound to be the occasional hiccups. The idea is not to take those hiccups out on the wrong people and to understand that they happen, right? Keep to the spirit of the exchange. *nodnod*

gratuitous subject line use of love

Date: 2011-12-27 09:37 pm (UTC)
jjhunter: Drawing of human J.J. in red and brown inks with steampunk goggle glasses (red J.J. inked)
From: [personal profile] jjhunter
Well said! I agree on all accounts.

Date: 2011-12-27 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cathalin.livejournal.com
Seconding every single thing. I'd always watched Yuletide from afar until last year when I wrote a Treat at the last minute even though I wasn't signed up. I swore right then I was signing up this year no matter what (I have issues sometimes with producing fic on cue haha). Well, I did, and it's been one of the best experiences of my fandom life.

The tone of things (not just in fandom, everywhere) is set from the top, and Elyn and Astolat and everyone involved have set a tone from the beginning that's all about love and acceptance and just sharing the joy in whatever way people want to/can.

The overwhelming feeling I had this year was gratitude and excitement and joy - and it wasn't just for receiving fic, though I received amazing, AMAZING fic -- but seriously (and this sounds so sappy) the joy of trying to craft something to make someone else happy, in fandoms we both loved. And that joy? I saw that everywhere, along with a spirit of helpfulness to each other as we worked to write. So many people, just excited to try to make gifts for people. <333

Date: 2012-01-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
THIS. Yes. *_* I completely agree with everything you just said.

And I've heard Yuletide referred to as "the cult of nice"... but you know something? I'm OK with that. We write stories the entire rest of the year and leave ourselves open to criticism and fandom wank. We get beat upon by the online community and by the world at large. Is it so wrong to want to participate in something where the entire goal is to spread good feelings for others and for yourself? I don't think so. I'm grateful for the "cult of nice." It's given me a warm glow of happy feelings to start the new year with and that can only ever be a positive thing. ^_^

Date: 2011-12-27 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazigyrl.livejournal.com
Well said. :)

This year I am just a treat writer not a participant but Yuletide has always been an enjoyable, friendly experience. It is sad to learn that a few made it less than that for some.

Date: 2011-12-28 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storyfan.livejournal.com
I wrote treats myself, since that was the only level of participation I could swing this year, and I, too, am sad that people would dampen the spirit of this lovely yuletide challenge.

Date: 2011-12-27 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamculuna.livejournal.com
Thank you for describing so well my own experience. This has been positive in every way, in spite of my own errors. I've gotten help the tech parts, encouragement in writing, and wonderful responses from recipient and others. I'm not usually a fic writer, so this has really been an unexpected by excellent experience.

Date: 2012-01-04 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
I've found, as a whole, that the Yuletide is extremely welcoming and helpful to newcomers. It really has been the best fandom experience I've had in a long time. ^_^ I'm glad it was the same for you!

BABY'S FIRST WONDERFUL YULETIDE?????

Date: 2011-12-28 03:51 am (UTC)
kindness_says: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kindness_says
This waaaaaaaaaaarms my hearrrrrrrrrrrrrrt.

/also a cheeseball

<3

Re: BABY'S FIRST WONDERFUL YULETIDE?????

Date: 2011-12-28 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
*LOL for your comment title* XD It really was. ^_^

I'm glad. ^_^ On both counts.

Re: BABY'S FIRST WONDERFUL YULETIDE?????

Date: 2011-12-28 07:33 am (UTC)
kindness_says: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kindness_says
WELL. I BETTER USE COMMENT SUBJECTS WHILE I CAN.

/COMPLAIN

/COMPLAINCOMPLAIN

...I'm really not generally a complainer. I just really want comment subjects.

/siiiiigh

Date: 2011-12-28 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
This is everything, everything I love about Yuletide.

Date: 2012-01-04 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
Thank you! ^_^

Date: 2011-12-28 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liz-mo.livejournal.com
I read your comment in the relevant post and can only say:
Thank you for tese words!

Date: 2012-01-04 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
Thank you. ^_^ Everyone's response to this little post just further proves everything I said in it. This entire experience has renewed my faith in fandom. ^_^ I can't wait until next Yuletide!

Date: 2011-12-29 07:53 am (UTC)
ext_99403: (yuletide kiefer snow)
From: [identity profile] zoi-no-miko.livejournal.com
Here from Yuletide! You're such a cute little cheeseball. Don't ever lose that - joy and enthusiasm makes the world go 'round.

My first year was much the same - I really, REALLY wanted porn (though I was very PC in not expressing desire for any one thing over the other!) leading up to Yuletide. Then the piece that I did get was not porny at all and so much more amazing than I ever anticipated that I wondered how I could have ever wished for porn XD.
Mind you the next year I GOT porn and it gave me just as much squeeful joy. :D Now just the idea of my poor tiny fandoms-of-my-heart getting more fic at Yuletide is enough to make me wiggle with joy... and one of the things I like MOST is when other people come out of the woodwork to request in my fandoms. <3

Wishing you many happy Yuletides to come!!

Date: 2012-01-02 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
I don't think I could stop being a cheeseball if I tried. -.-;;; So, I try not to. ^_^

I always feel awkward asking for porn because I feel like I don't want to own up to my own kinks. -.-;;; (Which is lame, because we all have them.) Also, because the point of every fanfic does not have to be porn... and sometimes I forget that and then I'm doubly embarrassed that I forgot in the first place. *sheepish grin* I was glad to be reminded though... in both directions.

And you know... one of my recipients suspected I'd written her fic after reading this post... and when I read your comment here, your LJ name looked familiar (thinking I may have spoken to you on IRC like... the night fics were due ^_^). Combine that with your icon and something about the tone of the comment and I had a sudden wonder about a fic I'd received...

YOU. You wrote me Flatliners. *_* *tail wag* You are awesome. Seriously. THANK YOU! ^_________________^
Edited Date: 2012-01-02 03:23 am (UTC)

Re:

Date: 2012-01-03 08:41 pm (UTC)
ext_99403: (Flatliners truck slash)
From: [identity profile] zoi-no-miko.livejournal.com
YAY! It was such a nice post that I couldn't resist replying, even at the small risk of de-annoning (is that a word?) myself. I have a bad habit of peeking in at my recips before reveal. Because Yuletide happiness is so contagious.

In any case. Thank YOU for requesting Flatliners! Secretly, the only thing about Yuletide that makes me happier than -getting- Kiefer fic is seeing other people ASK for Kiefer fic, and I try and fill as much as I can. It was actually my reason for joining Yuletide back in the day, since challenges seem to be the only thing that makes more fic in my tiny little fandoms. <3 God, I was up 'till like, 4am on Christmas Eve trying to pump out some Dark City smut for madness. Yours was much easier to write, though my partner-in-crime was trying to convince me that fisting was a great!idea!, what. Oh god.

Anyway - I adore Dave and Nelson though I don't write them near as much as I should. If you want more kink let me know as I have a bunch, some plotty and some not.

Speaking of plotty, if you haven't already, I highly recommend the Flatliners fic that Llwyden wrote for me this year, which is so expertly wrought and heart-wrenching with a side of hot mistake!sex. I'm so in love with it, even if I just want to FIX EVERYTHING and make them happy. XD

Happy New Year!!

Re:

Date: 2012-01-04 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
*_* Aw. Thank you! I was really worried about the level of cheeseball involved in posting this at all, but the overwhelming squee response I got to it has counterbalanced my initial embarrassment. ;) And I totally don't mind that you peeked and de-annoning can be a word if you like. I make up plenty of my own, too. ^_^

And I completely hear you. I used to write solely in big fandoms -- as mentioned, I started out in Sailor Moon back in the mid-late '90s -- but lately (and I apologize if I sound like a fandom snob), the larger fandoms are being taken over more and more by younger and younger writers... and thus by more and more wank. It's disheartening and certainly sped my withdrawal into smaller and smaller fandoms. When there are a total of 10 people over the entire Internet writing for a fandom and maybe 10-15 reading it... well. Hits and comments get awfully scarce. So when you find like-minded individuals (Thank you, Yuletide!! XD) it's an amazing experience.

As for kink, well... I used to think my preferences were fairly vanilla (well, as vanilla as they can be when you're starting from NC-17 slash ^_~). But, uh... the more I read (and now the more I write, HOLYOHMYGOODNESSWHATISTHATABOUT?)... the more I'm forced to accept that there are a lot of kinks I'm completely OK with -- or even find ridiculously hawt -- that I never would have dreamed I would be. *coughs* Fisting would be one. -.-;;; So, uh... yeah. I would not be averse to you exploring that idea. Especially, with these two. Nelson would agree to it just to prove he would. O_o;;; So, please, whatever kink you have for them... SHARE!! ^_^

I had some ideas for fic for them, actually, and had nearly decided that I had to write it myself if no one else would -- how I ended up writing Hair and Book of Mormon fanfic to begin with -- and then Yuletide came along and I derailed. But now I feel I owe you a gargantuan "Thank You" for this -- especially as you eeked it in just in the nick of time and it was WONDERFUL -- so... I may just reconsider. ;) We'll see what I can do.

*snaps up fic linky and toddles off after it*

For what it's worth, this sort of exchange has been my favorite part of the entire Yuletide experience. Just getting an opportunity to start up a dialogue with other people who love my fandoms as much as I do. LJ has been feeling a little threadbare of friends for me lately, so this has been amazing. ^_^ Thank you for being willing to babble with me!

ETA: And re: part of your fic comment response to consolidate
Again, I'm glad my prompt gave you something new to see in these two. I'm honestly fascinated with the competitive aspect between the two of them and that's what's been most calling me to fic for them -- the way they push and pull at each other and are so codependent even while trying so hard to prove they aren't. I <3 them so. *_* ^_^ *_*
Edited Date: 2012-01-04 03:00 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-04 03:03 am (UTC)
ext_99403: (Ben Guitar)
From: [identity profile] zoi-no-miko.livejournal.com
Mg I'm on my phone but Book of Mormon slash? Are you ex-mo too? XD

Date: 2012-01-04 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
*laughs* Oops. Uh, no. I should have specified on that one, I guess. Fandom-blinders. -.-;;; I meant "Book of Mormon the Musical" slash. *chuckles* Though I saw a few actual Book of Mormon fanfics on ff.net when I was looking for musical slash. ^_^

Are you? There seem to be quite a few floating around the periphery of my life these days... ^_^

Sorry to disappoint! *sheepish grin*

Date: 2012-01-04 06:07 am (UTC)
ext_99403: (Flatliners Nelson Blue)
From: [identity profile] zoi-no-miko.livejournal.com
Haha yeah I've been ex-mo for a while. I've never looked for BoM slash (book or musical) but it seems like it would be so perversely hilarious. XD

I've been pretty lucky with big fandoms. They don't tend to get wanky (or at least, not before I leave them). Primeval has been the anomaly, which is bizarre because the canon is so silly. XD And the fandom has got me to admit to SO many bizarre kinks...

Nelson seems to be so high strung to me, always about the bravado and being so strong(arrogant) and capable and at the end of the day needs Dave to strip away the layers and unwind.

Ok, links!
My plotty stuff is all on AO3 (though I use 'plotty' losely because it's still porn)

Fluff
More Fluff

And then here's so more PWP stuff.
Shower Sex
Spanking
Ball Gags XD
Sex in the Church

Date: 2012-01-05 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rchan.livejournal.com
"Perversely hilarious." Yes. Those are perfect words to describe the musical and anything stemming from it. XD I've seen it twice and become somewhat obsessed. ^_^ Here -- have a Tony performance video:



The ironic thing is that at the core of it, it's not really making fun of anything. It's more about the idea that having faith in something -- no matter what you have faith in -- is the important thing. <3 ^_^ <3 Love.

*coughs* Back to Flatliners.

Big fandoms always get wanky. It's their nature. Even small ones if they draw those audiences. It's a shame, really. I wish more fandoms ran like Yuletide -- with their "cult of nice". Not that I mind constructive criticism. Far from it. I just don't appreciate when people get nasty about it, like they're forgetting there is a person at the other end of the computer.

Primeval. *_* I confess, I lost steam a bit when Stephen and Nick "left" but I keep intending to get back to it. I did love that show and I kind of adored the new characters they brought in and, dude... Andrew Lee Potts. Come on. He's so geektastically adorable. ^_^

*snaps up the fic links* I'm traveling and don't have a lot of time to read, but I will devour these as soon as I do. *_*

And I agree with your Nelson assessment, BTW. What I love most about him is how it seems like that bravado is almost dependent on having David behind him to back him up. I mean... the look on his face at the beginning when he thinks David might be leaving school? You can't tell me he isn't heartbroken there. It's as though he can be as brave and arrogant as he needs to be, as long as he has David to look after his vulnerable side. *_* Love that.

And I have no idea what fandom it was that started me on kinks, but the one that disturbs me most is the penchant for dub!con/non!con I've picked up. O_o;;; There are a few that disturb me to the point that I won't go near them, but barring those... these days I'm willing to give most at least a shot. ;)

Looking forward to having time to read your fics! :D

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